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Starting the conversation:
You are a work in progress, and being proud of your past self is paramount to being able to become the person you need to be to achieve all desired goals. Even with doing all that inner work, the ability to connect with others helps people better understand you because your words and actions match. This allows space for achieving more. More money. More time. More peace. More achievement.
This program covers the three actions to fully step into who you are right now, the importance of understanding how to ask for and give help, and tips about how to be accountable to yourself. Jess Dewell talks with Ben Albert, Balbert Marketing LLC and The Real Business Connections Network, about the effort it takes to be confident.
Observe your behaviors. How you ask for help, or don’t, will impact how you are able to create connections. Sales conversations require an ask and your personal brand is as strong as your connections. Ben Albert, Balbert Marketing LLC and The Real Business Connections Network, discusses how being confident in who you are (not what you should be) is the cornerstone of your personal brand.
Host: Jess Dewell
Guests: Ben Albert
What You Will Hear:
Who you are versus who you ‘should be.’
Create alignment to reach your goals through rituals.
Consistency matters because actions that do not match words will erode your confidence.
Hold yourself accountable by implementing and taking action.
Your effort will force you into a new place – it may be uncomfortable because you can’t hide anymore.
You can accomplish more when you create a team that together creates a shared impact.
You can become better at asking for help.
Selling has an inherent resistance, so detach yourself from the outcome.
Additionally, for the Fast Track Your Business Today Uncut conversation:
Have the end in mind when you make an ask – how can the person help you (and you help them)?
We are all works in progress; can you be proud of who you were?
Celebrate opportunities that are created because of your uniqueness.
Recognize the gifts that emerge from your hardships and exercise your personal values.
Inspiration from lighthouse and foghorn stories, sharable experiences shaped by work Rene Rodriguez facilitates.
Forming your stories is part of your inner work.
The ways to keep momentum day to day to achieve your goal.s
It is BOLD to dedicate time to rituals and routines to attain more success.
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Transcript
ANNOUNCER 00:03
Welcome. This is the Bold Business Podcast. Your business has many directions it can travel. The one true direction of your company creates the journey for you to move toward a new, exciting level. We call this the Red Direction. In today’s program, we delve into one idea. The idea will support you as you work on ever-present situations, including how to stay competitive in a changing market, how to break through the business plateau, and how to anticipate the changing expectations of your stakeholders. Jess Dewell is your guide. Jess brings you a 20-year track record of business excellence, where strategy and operations overlap. Your Path comes from consistently working from the special place. Your unique True North. Now, here’s Jess.
Jess Dewell 00:51
Welcome to the Bold Business Podcast. Today, I get to introduce you to somebody named Ben, and I’m going to tell you more about Ben in a minute. What I need to tell you right now is that you never know what you’re going to hear on this show. And it’s always exciting. It’s always useful. And most importantly, it helps us develop the creativeness that we need for innovation for problem-solving for goal setting, even goal getting. Now you’re listening to this wherever you’re listening in on and it could be iTunes, it could be Spotify, it could be the red direction.com website, wherever it is, stop by say hello, have a moment to reach out and connect with Ben, who you will meet in just a moment. Now, all of you that are Fast Track Your Business subscribers, you know what happens next part of this conversation will be available only to you in your TrueNorth dashboard. So you’ll be reminded when that is. And for those of you interested, go check out Fast Track Your Business today.com. So when we think about marketing, when we think about how we talk to our customers, we’re always thinking of a bigger sales process outward client facing which is true. All of that is important. Sometimes, we also need to remember what we’re doing and how we’re showing up as individuals. Because that matters in the way people perceive us that matters when we go ask for help, that matters. When we’re defining what successful living full life business is. And I know I jumbled up all those words, and it was done on purpose. So if you prefer living a full life and being successful in your, in your career, awesome, that works, too. And here’s the thing. The thing is, when I met Ben and Ben and I started to talk a little bit, it became clear that even though he’s the owner of valve marketing, even though he’s the curator of the real business connections network. He comes from a thoughtfulness and a creativeness and looking at marketing in a holistic way. And when I heard about what he does for rituals and cadences, and the ability to show up not only for consistency, not only for personal development, but for real connection all the time, regardless of where that connection is. I knew you would want to talk to him, then. Welcome to the Bold Business Podcast.
Ben Albert 03:28
Yes, thank you for having me. That’s like the greatest introduction ever. I, I hope I can live up to your affirmations about me. I’m just a regular, regular guy here to learn from you here to learn from the audience and have a great conversation with you today.
Jess Dewell 03:45
See, everybody. We already are on the same page. Our purest intentions are to let you be the flies on the wall to let your ears be open. While we just have a really great conversation that we get to learn from each other and maybe explore and CO collaborate in a way that is unexpected, yet timely for what we happen to be talking about right now. I am so glad you’re here, fellow regular person. Here we go. I love that. Did you really use the word dude, you said I’m just a regular dude, right? Yeah, I’m glad because that’s the word I use. I call everybody dude. Dude, I know and I don’t know when that, when that started. For me. I think it was a long time ago. Before the movie is all I gotta say I think I’m one of those people who was just there before whatever movies it first started to come out and at that time, and I have to remember Oh, yeah, that’s it. So I connect very clearly to dude.
Ben Albert 04:47
Yeah, I like to one of my best friends calls everybody man, regardless of gender. And he’s actually very, very conscious but he just calls everybody Hey man, you If I guess I say, Dude.
Jess Dewell 05:01
Yeah, I love that. And you say, Dude, there’s Yes. And I think so. This isn’t just a self-awareness. And that’s, I guess, maybe that’s where we should start then today, right, this concept of self-awareness in our fullest sense, so that we can actually show up in the world as ourselves, instead of what we should be, according to other people. So what’s been on your heart and in your mind, and in your gut about that lately been?
Ben Albert 05:30
Yeah, well, first off, for some reason, the word should has been kind of a trigger point for me, because everyone says what you should do and what you should have, and who you should be. And what you are meant what you should be doing in the car, you should drive in the business, or the perfect prison profession, like the profession you should get into and the business you should start. And we just shut ourselves to death. And we follow someone else’s path, which you had mentioned self-awareness, often all these shoulds. And these other paths, or even paths that are laid out on a red carpet, for us, might not be what we should do, and we shouldn’t shoot ourselves to death. We, it’s difficult. And I’m actually not here as I am the expert on this, I’m learning as I go. But I followed the shoulds my entire life. And I did exactly what I was told. And I ended up just unhealthy, unhappy, unhealthy. Honestly, I shouldn’t even say this. But every Monday, I would have to take a half Xanax, before going to work because I was under so much stress in a corporate role where I wasn’t a good fit. But since it was what I should be doing in a city that I loved in a beautiful building, I was chasing it, even though I was chasing on happiness the entire time. So I’m a work in progress, just but let’s not shoot all over ourselves. Let’s talk about actually figuring out what wish Should I just said should, what we actually deserve and can do what we could do and will do and figure out what’s in alignment with us. And our purpose as an individual, which is going to be different between me you and every audience member listening, it’s gonna be different for all of us.
Jess Dewell 07:27
You know, it is true. And I appreciate you, acknowledging the work in progress as I am, I’m like, Oh, I just do stuff so I can fail at it. I’m like, oh, that sounds fun. I’ve no idea if I can actually do that. But if I fail, I’ll know if and then if I succeed, I’ll also know. But failure is one of those things where it’s Oh, it’s easy. And to your point of always consciously learning, it’s easy for me to take on this concept of, Oh, I get that I understand how to how to show up there. And it turns out that have a show up there as possible yet, it hurts. To, to your point about the lack of fit the, the chasing concept, and we have blind spots around that every single person does, and they just show up, they show up differently. But we all have those blind spots that we get stuck in that once in a while. So having self-awareness just helps us understand when we’ve gone back to a place we might not want to be in a little quicker so that we can course correct and change that habit, if you will. And I know one of the things that we, we really bonded over in our first conversation together was this concept of ritual, this concept of to live fully to have the success and whatever part of life we want. We have to have that we have to have this foundation to ground us. And that could look different for every single one of us. I’m curious, from your perspective. What are some of the things that what’s worked really well for you? And then what are some of the things you tried that you had to let go of so that you could find what works really well for you?
Ben Albert 09:12
100% and it’s been a great two years again, I’m a work in progress. But when I left the corporate world it was because I was furloughed. I started a podcast I started my own marketing business, actually replaced my sales executive income in just over a year. But it wasn’t always like that I was a hard case. I was a hard case across the board. I come from a father who like to drink for 510 too many. And at a young age, I kind of fall down his path where you know, high school I started smoking and drinking really didn’t amount to much didn’t really think I’d amount to anything was acquired. I a kid made myself smaller, I got really good at hiding in the shadows, and just making myself smaller. And one thing that was a blessing at the time is the music industry is where I found my saving grace. I found my tribe, my people, and I was not the best musician. But one thing that I loved was elevating, creative, brilliant people. So I was always in the corner. Basically, I was the promoter, I was management, I was marketing, I was street teaming, I was doing all the stuff behind the scenes for these musicians. So nowadays, I get to run a marketing company. And I started a career in marketing, so I could help brilliant people. Now the issue is, I was starting to live in alignment, which is great. So we got the, let’s say, right side, I’m living in alignment with what ultimately I was meant to do, like I have a gift for this. But on the left side, I’m drinking too much. Due to that drinking and the poor health again, I’m maybe taking a Xanax for stress, stress that could be avoidable if I ultimately initiated the things I knew. And for me, just I was the lead. There’s a listener who was me back then I was this person, where I would listen to podcasts. And I would learn a, b, c, and d, to the point that I actually knew I could probably write an entire book on marketing, personal development habits, any of these things, I could read a book on it. But it was embarrassing to even talk about because I wasn’t doing these things that I knew. All the time when I was learning and I was growing my marketing skills. I was making things worse by binge eating and binge drinking and binge watching TV and waking up. And the first thing I did was pick up my phone and getting a stress cycle. And then you go back to all those hedonistic things that you probably shouldn’t. In this case, you probably shouldn’t be drinking and doing all these things, you go back to that. And then you just find yourself in a dark place.
Announcer 12:18
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Jess Dewell 13:24
Before you found out what really worked, you thought you knew, and there was an accidental erosion of whatever I was building up in myself, whatever I was seeking, then I turned around, and I did something that was unsupportive of it.
Ben Albert 13:42
Yes. So imagine a bucket that you’re trying to fill to the top, you want it to overflow flow into other people’s cups. But you personally are the one walking over and poking holes in your own bucket. It’s one thing to have a hole in your bucket that you’re not aware of. And we need to seal I quite literally was poking the holes in my own bucket, which was making me not able to serve the people in my life to be there for my father and my mother to be there for my friends to show up happy at work, and then the energy just permeates and everything you do. And then when you’ve got that bad energy, you get bad energy back. So this was a long way of saying I was a hard case. And it wasn’t until I actually held myself accountable for rewriting my habits, rewriting my rituals, implementing the kind of stuff that you talk about your podcast all the time actually implementing it, rather than silently being an observer, putting it into action. It wasn’t until I started to make those decisions that the needle actually moved. Now I feel I feel like I was where Getting my way up. But it’s, it’s a hockey stick personal growth, when you actually commit to making that dedication to yourself. And by making that dedication to yourself, you know what happens just you help everyone else in your life for doing it. So it’s not even about me anymore, it’s about the amount of impact I can have. Realizing that I’m still working progress, you know, I could talk to another work in progress. And both of us could double, you know, even just to x or speed, you’re gonna kick butt.
Jess Dewell 15:33
Totally. And okay, so then the second piece is, so first was, Hey, be self-aware, because you might be eroding the work you’re going to. And the second thing then becomes self-accountability, and maybe even external support accountability, because it’s there for you to actually take the implementation process seriously enough to go do the actions, which then leads to that serving piece that you were talking about? And it makes me think of the fact too bad you can’t hide anymore.
Ben Albert 16:08
What’s that from?
Jess Dewell 16:10
I don’t know. I just said it. I love literally and Jessica-ism in a moment too bad. You know, you know how you’re eroding things and you’ve stopped, you’re accountable to take the action and you’re doing it. You can’t hide anymore?
Ben Albert 16:24
You can the way you said it, and I love you and your personality. I thought it was like straight from a hit movie like,
Jess Dewell 16:33
Oh, I wish it was from a movie. Somebody can come take that anytime. I’ll just give it to them. Yes. I appreciate that, then. Yeah, I do try and quote things and tell you I’m taking it from movies, even if I can’t tell you which movie it came from. That is, that is a weakness of mine here. I was an okay, ready for a tangent. And you can tell me how you do this, too. We’re in the store. I’m at the grocery store. The person who is ringing up my groceries, she and I talk about movies a lot, because I’m in the grocery store a lot. That’s just a little bit about me. I like to shop in the moment. And she was telling me about this. This movie and she couldn’t remember the name, but she was describing the people in it. And I was like, Oh, I know. Exactly. She knows woody something. And of course, I’m like, Oh, I got it. It’s not this. It’s not this because of what else ever else she was saying. I was like, it’s Woody from the movie, what Men Can’t Jump. And the guy behind us in line goes Woody Harrelson. And so it took three of us and a weird connection that we had, including somebody who wasn’t in the original conversation to get to that moment. Now. as useless as it might be. I think that the point that I am trying to make here with this side tangent is that when you go out of your way to intentionally connect, amazing things happen.
Ben Albert 17:58
100% Yeah, and you can accomplish so much more with shared impact. And, you know, just communal impact, you can accomplish so much more if you, if you ask people for help.
Jess Dewell 18:11
Okay, well, we got to talk about that. Because see, all mine is accidental. Just like that. Great, amazing moments, I met somebody else in the community while I was talking to somebody that I regularly talk to. And then we all felt good. We all shared that new knowledge. And to your point, though, asking for help. I don’t do anything with the intention of asking for help. And that is where I am a work in progress. Because I will do all of these things and realize, oh, I need help. And then not to figure out how to ask for help versus showing up knowing I will ask for help in designing it that way. I don’t know what I don’t know what you have in relationship to those two paddles. But if you were to talk about your left and your right, that you were talking about earlier, the two columns and how they sometimes work against each other or nullify each other to 00 momentum. That would be mine, one of mine anyway.
Ben Albert 19:13
You know, it’s interesting, because you’re such a giving person and you’re just a chatty, outgoing person. That I don’t know if you always have to ask for help. And people are gonna want to help you anyways. But I’m wondering if you’re missing out on opportunities because you’re afraid to ask for help and scenarios that you may be good.
Jess Dewell 19:36
That’s another great if I if we could like turn this into columns, it would be both of those things. And those would be the direct, those would be what happens right underneath, and then you could start doing the listening part. You’re right. Well, so did you have to learn to ask for help?
Ben Albert 19:54
Yeah, that’s a good one. I you know, I just feel like I’ve always been Asking for help in one way or another, okay? I always a quiet kid. So I quite literally like my parents would order the hamburger for me because I was too afraid to open the mouth. Or I’d be holding my crotch when I have to go potty because I’m too afraid to I guess in a way, I was afraid to ask for help. But I was always being helped. Yes, but one thing I realized at a very young age is I couldn’t do it alone, especially as someone who was very reclusive and very shy, I needed others around me. And I really appreciated and like, I’m so grateful for the amount of love and support I got from my parents. So I don’t go around asking people for help. But I go around every day with the, the notion I’m going to over-deliver and serving someone today. And that we can serve people all the time just with a smile just with a hello. But I want to overdeliver to go out of my way to help someone. And the way I look at it is if I help 100 people, and 10 people helped me back. I got to help 100 people, and I got helped 10 times. But if I don’t help anybody, how many times am I going to be helped? maybe two, maybe one. So I realized when I was younger, I was too shy to ask for it. I just needed it. Now that I’m older, I’m like, let’s give, give, give, give, give because I know what it feels like to not want to ask, not want to ask for introduction or a referral. If someone’s a good fit, I’m like, You need to meet this person, you don’t have to ask me for that introduction or that referral. But by giving, it does pay dividends, because you put out so much good in the world, that the whole karma thing, right, it comes back around, and people want to help you. The one thing I don’t have an answer for just is how do you ask for help more, if you’re afraid to, because I think a lot of people run into this problem. Yeah, give give, give, give, give, give, give, and they have a need. And they’re afraid to ask. And this is not a scientific piece of advice. But my only piece of advice is, don’t be afraid to ask. People want to help you. People love to help you, it makes people feel good to help you. I know that personally,
Jess Dewell 22:35
I agree with that. And I do believe that every single person in the world is built from a place of service, we require each other to survive in one-way shape, or form, whether we know the people or not. And so actually when we do our work, and we earn our currency, and then we go spend it on a stick with the grocery store to have a breakfast, or a lunch or a dinner, or coffee or whatever it happens to be, you’re spending that money, and then all of that money is actually engaging, and supporting all of the people who put in the work to make whatever it was that was purchased in that moment, in addition to having magical moments with strangers, right. And I think that’s really interesting, because so now let me, let me, let me think about this, because Thank you, by the way for the I’m gonna take as compliments as the outgoing person. And I do think you’re right, and thank you to all the people who helped me, you because you know who you are. And I know it too. And I tell you in the moment. So that’s kind of to your point, I do believe that happens. And I do believe people have the opportunity to help me sometimes, though, to this concept of all of us have this, this fear of asking, oh my gosh, I got myself stuck, or oh my gosh, I didn’t know it was gonna turn out like this, or oh my gosh, this is so unexpected. I don’t know what to do, we do have to be able to ask for help. And sometimes it doesn’t have to actually feel like asking for help. Kind of like selling doesn’t have to actually feel like selling I’m going to make this connection because of how we’re showing up in the world. So we almost need to figure out tell me if I’m wrong here. How do we present into the world? And so how are other people perceiving the presentation that we’re giving, so that we know how to use that to create the connection points of that? Less? I got to figure out how to ask you for help. And two, because I’m doing this and we’re talking you actually have something that is useful to me in that moment. I don’t even know do you have like a? Do you have some ideas about that? Like how do, how do you present in the world that allows you to know how to like design? I’m going to call it designing the ask in a non-asking way. Like I’m done you know those all those courses are nonsense. Like, that’s kind of what I’m thinking about here. I wonder, what’s the correlation?
Ben Albert 25:03
When everyone’s trying to sell, they’re trying to pitch they’re not everyone, but it’s often that people are, are aggressive. And because of that sales, aggressive action that we’ve seen so much, there’s a lot of sales resistance that it’s like, the moment they open their mouth, you can tell it’s what’s in it for them, rather than what’s in it for us what’s in it for me, and it’s one of my mentors, Jeff Bloomfield gives the analogy of, you know, imagine someone has a big old suitcase, and they open up the suitcase and just have a whole suitcase of watches. And they go, just do you want to buy a watch? I’ve got watches, you would love this watch while you, this watch would look great on you want to watch? And that’s kind of how people just spit out like, buy a watch from me. Rather than thinking like, How can I help this person? How can we collaborate? Do they need a watch? Does their cousin Anita watch? Does their mother needle-watch? Do they like watches? Can I even help them? So I think if you can detach from outcome, detach from making a sale, or persuading someone or influencing someone or getting what you want, detach, and just see if there’s a way that you guys have an alignment, where either of you could help one another. So I would come in and I’d be like, you know, just I don’t know if you can help me or not yet. I need advice at something. Can I ask you something that’s a little personal. Or the other way around? You could say, I don’t know if I can help you or not just if I can. I know that I can figure out someone who can. But can I ask you a few questions and see if we’re like on the same page about what you actually might think you need? So by detaching from the outcome, with an abundance mindset, that if you can’t help you know how to find someone who can. And if they’re not a good fit, that’s quite alright. Like it’s no harm, no foul, detaching from outcome and just going in a place to serve. It’s an open mind. It’s a different energy. And then you ask different questions if you do it that way.
Jess Dewell 27:24
Yes. I’m in complete agreement with you. And I’m listening to you going, Oh, I totally get that. And then I’m thinking about the right I’m thinking about groups of clients that I have. And there’s a group of clients who are like, I’m never going to do that. But here’s what I will do. I will, I can be more intentional about who I ask for help. So it’s my job, right? So all those people who like service all those people who like responsibility, all those people who like to help themselves first, it’s my job to not only know what I need help with to ask, it’s also my job, or my responsibility or my, my willingness to get what I need, by doing a little research first to find out, do I go to Ben and ask them for help? Or do I go to Ben? And do I ask Ben who he knows who can help me? Don’t ask, but in the know, makes it a little bit less awkward, because then that outcome, that detached outcome truly is a, I can meet you in the moment of that opportunity of I need something. And you are that you are the person who worst case scenario with all that extra effort has to say, well, I don’t know, or I don’t have anything, which by the way, I think is a great answer. Because if we try to have answers that we don’t have, we’re also we go back to that very first conversation that we were talking about, inadvertently disguised as being helpful. But you know, so there’s that part. And then I have another group of clients who would say something like, well, I need it to be I need, I have to think about this in relationship to selling. And I’m not a sole proprietor anymore, but I’m still the face of my business. Or maybe I am both to those things. And I have to think about how, or how could I have to think about what else can I do? Because I need to ask people, I don’t know, to do things. And so my question becomes, is there an element that each of us could take somewhere in there regarding our own personal marketing, to help us with the presentation of ourselves to set up the design to not ask when we need to ask?
Ben Albert 29:37
I’m gonna, I’m taking notes, mental notes, and we’re going to come back to this because these are big boys aren’t that questions? Yeah. The first thing that comes to mind for me is if you’re looking for help, ask someone else for help. Because people like to help people like to get have advice. So it kind of goes back to what I said before it could be like, Jesse, can you help me out? Please? You I presume you’d say, Yeah, sure I can help. Well, I don’t exactly know if you can or not yet, would you be open at looking at this that might be causing this to happen? Oh, sure. So it’s instead of being like, Hey, will you help me? It’s, it’s, wait, instead of asking for help, you can ask them. I’m getting all confused.
Jess Dewell 30:34
I was telling you, here’s a note, here’s something that happened to me recently that maybe will either articulate or course correct us if we’re not on the same page, Ben? Yes. So I was in a, I was in a meeting with somebody who can refer redirection clients. And one of the things that I wanted to do was have an opportunity to get some feedback on something because their clients are also our clients. And I, and I’m actually preparing for our next business management report. So I asked if he would take a look at I said, Well, I don’t have anybody that I answered all of his questions. And I offered to help. And I did all that. And I gave him some deadlines, and we got all that part done. And then I took advantage of practicing and asked, I said, you know, I could use some help, too. And here’s what I need help with. Would you take a look at this survey that I have? And would you take a look at this business management report from this last year that I have? And will you give me your feedback on, on them? So that I may use that when I am? Because I’m going to beginning, be beginning to work on that very soon? And it was a no, I said, I’ll probably take you 15 minutes. And he would be he was like, it’s a no brainer. Yes, I can help you with that. So sometimes people need actions to be able to go yes, I can actually help you versus having it be slightly more open-ended. Does that help get you back to where you were?
Ben Albert 32:02
Well, that makes a ton of sense. Because at the end of the day, if you’re asking for something, you should have a strategy in place, you should have an end in mind. You come in with an action plan, and give guidance and instruction of how they can help is much different than Hey, can I pick your brain? Yeah, very two different conversations.
Jess Dewell 32:26
And a lot of people will say, I need your help, but they won’t say I need to pick your brain. So that’d be something else. I’d say, Can if you just need to pick somebody’s brain, could you say I promise I’ll only take X amount of time? Because I need this information that you have that I want to learn about.
Ben Albert 32:43
I would just be careful with pick your brain. [That is true.] Some people charge, let’s just say $100 an hour, and the coffee you’re gonna buy them is not worth what they charge. So you do need to be careful there. And you don’t want to just go around picking everybody’s brain. I still say come in with a, some guidelines. [Yeah.] Maybe it only is going to take 10 to 15 minutes. And I prefer I prefer the word advice.
Jess Dewell 33:11
You like advice?
Ben Albert 33:13
Like, yeah, I could I could really use some advice. And I will respect your opinion. Just Can I ask you like two questions? [Yeah, versus Yeah.] Versus I don’t really ask for help. We kind of got on and ask for help. kind of calm. I know, I don’t really ask for help. I asked for advice. Or I say I’m curious. And I just ask, I either open with I could really use some advice or I’m curious and just ask like, I guess the whole point is not to have an ulterior motive. If you have a question, just ask the question. People want to help you people want to give you advice.
Jess Dewell 33:50
Okay, so that’s back to accountability. Right? Okay. So we’re gonna hold this thought, and I know you have a hole too because we need to sit, take a pause here and say, Hey, everybody, this is the Bold Business Podcast with Ben today. And he is sharing great information with us. And guess what, for those of you listening to our podcast, this is the end of the road for you today. Look forward to more fresh content next week, on Thursday. For the rest of you who are part of the Fast Track Your Business program, if you’re listening to the wrong feed, or if you liked this one so much. Don’t forget, go get the rest of this conversation because we’re going to be talking more about accountability. We’re going to be talking about more about personal branding. We’re going to be talking about more about what makes it bold, to, to be present today. And by the way, this conversation about asking for help. And the fear of asking for help is actually apparently something that I needed to be talking about today. So while we have a couple of other talking points in mind, you heard it here. You heard this intentional connection from a starting point, a common starting point of having a good conversation. So don’t forget to join that conversation and remember, check in with Ben connect with him on social media it will all be at the show notes page.
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